Ed confirmed that things that soured between Aaron and his family in a 2017 New York Times interview, explaining that the issues started a “few months” after he began dating Olivia.

He noted that Aaron had not spoken to him, his brothers or his mother Darla Rodgers since 2014, adding, “Fame can change things.”

But Olivia has long denied that her relationship with Aaron had anything to do with his estrangement from his family.

As she told Andy Cohen on his Sirius XM show in 2018, “He hadn’t spoken to the parents and one brother for like eight months before we started dating.”

In fact, the 44-year-old—who is now married to John Mulaney, with whom she shares on Malcolm, 2—said she actually tried to encourage Aaron to have an “honest conversation” with them. Recalling that it seemed to work, she noted, “They had a nice conversation and then they started coming out my first year when I was in Green Bay in 2014.”