Marvel star Anthony Mackie has revealed what it’s like working alongside Hollywood icon Harrison Ford in the upcoming MCU sequel, Captain America: Brave New World. Speaking with Inverse, Mackie’s description of Ford once again confirms the Indiana Jones star’s delightfully grumpy outlook, as well as teasing the close relationship between Mackie’s Captain America and Ford’s Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross.

“The first day was so intimidating. I was so f—ing nervous I couldn’t remember my lines. He’s Harrison f—ing Ford. There is this aura about him. But he dispels that really quickly because he’s such a cool guy. He’s everything a movie star should be. He would say, ‘Let’s shoot this piece of sh-t.’ And everybody was like, ‘Yeah, let’s shoot this sh-t.’ We spent a good bit of time together. Ross and Cap have always had that relationship, where they were friends and they respected each other, but they always bumped heads. That’s their relationship in the storyline.”

The image of Ford loudly belittling Captain America: Brave New World and the rest of the cast and crew either missing what he said or intentionally missing out a few words to turn his negative into a positive before heading to filming is almost too perfect.

Aside from this magical moment of real-life comedy, Mackie reveals that Ford’s role in Captain America: Brave New World will perhaps be bigger than many expected. According to Mackie, the two actors spent a lot of time together, with Captain America and Thunderbolt Ross butting heads a lot as they take different approaches to achieving truth and justice.

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Directed by Julius Onah and written by Malcolm Spellman and Dalan Musson, Captain America: Brave New World will pick up following the events of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, exploring how taking on the mantle of Captain America has affected Anthony Mackie’s Sam Wilson. While wider details are being kept largely under wraps, set images and rumors have revealed that the MCU sequel will introduce the criminal organization The Serpent Society to the fray.

Captain America: Brave New World will add Star Wars and Indiana Jones star Harrison Ford as Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, with the Hollywood icon taking over from the late, great William Hurt. The hard-headed former general has since become President of the United States, with many theorizing that the plot will also see Ross transformed into the Red Hulk, as happens in the pages of Marvel Comics. For his part, Ford replied “What is the Red Hulk?” when asked about possibly becoming the monstrous supervillain in the Captain America sequel.

Led by Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson aka Captain America, Captain America: Brave New World will also star Danny Ramirez as Joaquin Torres aka Falcon, Carl Lumbly as Isaiah Bradley, Tim Blake Nelson as Samuel Sterns, Shira Haas as Sabra, Harrison Ford as Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross, and Liv Tyler as Betty Ross, with Xosha Roquemore, Seth Rollins, and Rosa Salazar cast in undisclosed roles.

Captain America: Brave New World is scheduled to be released in the United States on July 26, 2024, as part of Phase Five of the MCU.