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Callum Keith Rennie’s Captain Rayner brings conflict and depth to
Star Trek: Discovery
‘s final season.
Rennie discusses his experience on
Star Trek: Discovery
, praising the supportive cast and crew, despite the initial challenges of joining an established series for its last season.
In Season 5, Episode 4 “Face the Strange,” Burnham and Rayner must work together within a time bubble to save the universe.

As Captain Michael Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) embarks on one last adventure with her crew, Star Trek: Discovery Season 5 is bringing a few new characters along for the ride. Chief among those newcomers is the blunt, war-worn Captain Rayner. Played by Battlestar Galactica alum Callum Keith Rennie, Rayner is Burnham’s new second in command on the Discovery, taking over after Saru (Doug Jones) took a different position at Starfleet.

Having lived through The Burn, Rayner doesn’t have time for niceties and butts heads with Burnham almost immediately — so naturally, she takes it upon herself to give him a second chance when Starfleet is ready to cut him loose. Last week’s episode saw him, rightfully, put in his place a bit as Tilly (Mary Wiseman) attempted to help him connect with the crew, much to his chagrin. In Season 5 Episode 4, “Face the Strange,” Rayner and Burnham are thrown into a time bubble, forcing them to work together if they ever want to get back to the correct timeline and prevent the universe from being destroyed.

Ahead of the episode, I sat down with Rennie to dig into Rayner’s backstory, what we can expect from him in the rest of the season, and what it will take for Rayner to truly connect with the crew of Discovery. During our conversation, we also discussed Rennie’s history with sci-fi, what it was like joining Discovery for the show’s final season, and what he’s taking away from the whole experience.

Star Trek: Discovery
Taking place almost a decade before Captain Kirk’s Enterprise, the USS Discovery charts a course to uncover new worlds and life forms.Release Date September 24, 2017 Main Genre Sci-Fi Seasons 5

Rennie is no stranger to science fiction, having had roles in such series as The Umbrella Academy, Jessica Jones, and Battlestar Galactica. As Battlestar Galactica was the series that turned me into a sci-fi fan, and perhaps Rennie’s most recognizable role, I had to ask him about being a part of such massive and beloved franchises within the genre. “It’s amazing,” he said. For Rennie, even though Battlestar was also a reboot of a classic series, the show’s success was a lot less predictable than the mainstay that is Star Trek. He explained, “Like, say Battlestar, when I started on that I had no idea where that one was gonna go. Discovery was already very established, but I actually didn’t let any of that into my [head], because I went, “That’s not gonna help.” So, I didn’t. Now, I’m feeling the world of it. Now, I’m sensing what the world of Discovery is and how many people love it, and how it fits.”

Discovery also isn’t his first experience with Star Trek, “I watched the original. That was my thing, and that was it,” Rennie told me. While he may have missed some of the series’ in between, saying, “There’s big chunks of time where I just didn’t watch a lot of TV, so I missed all of the other stuff,” he’ll always make time for The Original Series when he comes across it, “even if the old Star Trek comes on, I’ll still watch it because that was my Star Trek. Jim Kirk, and all of that.”

While we’ve gotten a pretty good sense of who Rayner is in these first four episodes, most of his backstory remains a mystery. Rennie revealed that “some backstory comes up in a few episodes.” Part of his gruff exterior will be explained as we’ll “get a sense of why he’s maybe got a chip on his shoulder and has some unprocessed resentments about a bunch of things that maybe have played out in his work in a negative way.”

Rennie Calls ‘Star Trek: Discovery’s Latest Episode “Amazing”
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“Face the Strange,” is such a classic Star Trek episode, employing the ever-entertaining sci-fi trope of sticking our main characters in a time loop, both to put an obstacle in their path as well as to bring them face to face with some of their own demons. For Rennie, the episode really put the science in science fiction. “It was like, ‘Whoa! What’s happening? I don’t get it.’ There’s just so much science stuff and talk, so much jumping about to places and history and stuff.” But he had high praise for his fellow castmates as well as the crew behind the camera.”Lee [Rose] being the director, you’re in great hands.Being in scenes with Sonequa, you know that you’re gonna be in it, and it was great. I watched it again last night, and there’s just an amazing amount of stuff in there. It was just an amazing episode.”

In this episode, Burnham and Rayner are tossed back in time to the first season of Discovery, bringing them both face to face with the version of Burnham who’s fresh off her own demotion in Starfleet. Throughout the episode, it becomes quite clear that Burnham and Rayner have a lot more in common than either of them might have realized. When asked if this experience might put them more on equal footing, Rennie confirmed that “he’s learned an understanding of the crew.” He went on to point out that we haven’t seen the relationship that Rayner had with his own crew.

He explained: “We’re not on the Antares talking about his crew, which I think is an important part that we missed, where you go, ‘How did I see my people on my particular ship? And how well did I know them?’ No one’s asking me how well I knew everybody because I did, but if I’ve only been there a brief time, you’re only gonna have facts.” He admits that it is important for Rayner to connect past the surface level. “Through that particular episode, you learn and go, ‘Yes, it is good to know what people are up to and where they’re from,’ because in that particular instance, it saved us. So, I learned a thing, and I give a, ‘Yes. Got it. Thank you.'”

Rayner Will Have to Shorten the Distance Between Himself and the Discovery Crew
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While it doesn’t sound like we’ll be getting any flashbacks to Rayner’s time on the Antares Rennie believes that he’d spent a similar amount of time with that crew as Michael has with hers. “We didn’t get to inhabit that, I get to make it up in my own mind,” he said. “But for me, it was more like a pirate ship that I had.” While Rayner comes off as the more stubborn, stick-to-the-mission Captain between him and Burnham, Rennie doesn’t think he was quite so strict on his own ship. He said:

“That’s the way I perceived it. It wasn’t some rigid, completely stoic, boss fest, but a little bit of a wild card ship.
We’re gonna go into things that nobody else wants to go into, or knows how to deal with, but
we
would.
”

While the walls around Rayner are still pretty high, Rennie explained that we will see him “shorten the distance” he’s put between himself and the crew of the Discovery. “There’s a great bit, there’s an episode where Burnham leaves me again to take control of the ship. There’s an interaction with everybody in a certain way because they don’t like me yet. [Laughs] And I need some help a little bit, but I’ve created a distance, and I have to shorten that distance between everybody.” He went on to say there are plenty of “fun dynamics” to look forward to and Rayner’s insistence on keeping everyone at arm’s length will likely come back to bite him.

Star Trek has quite a long list of original alien species created for the franchise, and Rayner just happens to be a Kellerun, a race that hasn’t been seen since Deep Space Nine. In classic Trek fashion, Kelleruns appear mostly human with the most visible difference being the shape of the ears. As he follows in the footsteps of the likes of Leonard Nimoy and any actor who has ever played a Vulcan or a Romulan, I asked Rennie about getting into prosthetics for the role. “Those guys are great. Rocky [Faulkner] was great, Nicola [Bendrey] was great.” While it was certainly an extra step the process was brief enough that it didn’t bother him to come to set a bit earlier than usual. “That was probably an hour, and I really didn’t think about that enough to go, ‘Oh, that’s right. I have to get up earlier.’ But I think we got it down to an hour and a bit for just the ears because there’s a lot of stuff on them.”

Despite the agonizing wait of sitting in front of a mirror for an hour, Rennie noted that Faulkner and Bendrey made the make-up experience as fun as it could possibly have been. He said: “I don’t love just sitting there looking at myself for an hour, but there’s music and great company and coffee, and it became a really sweet part of the day, and then another sweet part of the day where I download.” It wasn’t his first time getting into prosthetics, but his previous experience had been brief. After playing Rayner across an entire season, Rennie admitted by the end, removing the glue actually started to feel like you’d expect pulling costume glue off your ears to feel. “There was a point near the end where the glue-on, glue-off became quite painful for a while.”

The Support of the Cast and the Fans Are Highlights of Rennie’s ‘Star Trek’ Experience
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While this is Rennie’s first season on the show, it’s the final bow for Star Trek: Discovery. When asked what he’d be taking away from this experience, he had nothing but high praise for the cast and crew. As a newcomer on a well-established show, jumping into the fifth season had a bit of a learning curve. “I found that coming into the show was difficult for me because it was unlike a show that I’d been on before. It was already very well established.” He went on to say:

“I pat myself on the back because I made it through, and there was this wonderful group energy that helped me do that. The good naturedness of the show was something that I maybe haven’t worked on.
There was a wholehearted goodness about it, which was quite nice, which overlapped into how people treated each other and mutual respect.

Also, I kind of blocked out all Star Treks in my mind, so I’m there not thinking of Star Trek history. I’m just doing scene-to-scene and working on this stuff, and then it finishes, and then I forget that there’s an incredible vast following of the show that somehow you are now part of it like that. All of that, this is all relatively new to me.”

As a new addition to an already established group, I pointed out that it seemed as though Rennie’s experience mirrored that of his characters, and he agreed. “I’m excited for people to see the season. And then, coming into it playing, “I don’t want to be liked. It doesn’t matter if I’m liked. I’m there to do my job, like Rayner, and I’m doing it. And then there’s the after-effect of an incredible fan base that seems to be very supportive.”

You can watch our full conversation in the player above, and catch the latest episode of Star Trek: Discovery now on Paramount+.

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